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LAPD Gets New Contract for 10K Rank-and-File Officers

The starting salary would increase by $7,000 -- to about $57,000 -- starting in January 2015.

Patch file photo.
Patch file photo.

Los Angeles city officials announced today they have reached a tentative labor agreement with the union that represents about 10,000 rank-and-file police officers.

"I'm very pleased we have reached a fiscally responsible tentative agreement that maximizes the deployment of our police officers and ensures that the LAPD remains competitive and able to recruit the best officers to maintain our historic low crime levels," Mayor Eric Garcetti said.

Representatives from the Los Angeles Police Protective League declined to comment on the labor talks.

City officials did not release details of the tentative agreement. However, a source familiar with the labor negotiations said the agreement would not include cost-of-living increases for most employees, but would raise starting annual salaries by $7,000 -- to about $57,000 -- beginning in January 2015.

The proposed contract would also increase the amount the city would pay in overtime from an initially budgeted $30 million to $70 million, according to the source.

The city would also start paying down overtime that was banked over the past few years, the source said.

The tentative contract would extend a labor pact that expired last night.

"I am very satisfied with the agreement we've struck with our police officers and the Police Protective League," City Council President Herb Wesson said. "This contract should be a major boost to recruitment, retention and morale for what I believe is the finest police force in the nation."

--City News Service


Ziegler July 02, 2014 at 10:55 PM
Los Angeles needs many more police officers. However there is something that people do not know and that is that Detectives worl only 24 hrs. per week. The overtime pay was overwhelming the City because Detectives only worked 4 to 6 hrs. daily. because it was so costly to pay the millions in overtime pay the City Council opted to give them time off, ergo we need to have more hirees to make up the difference.
Ziegler July 04, 2014 at 06:48 AM
I have lived through not being able to contact detectives because of the working hours. The Union is exceptionally strong and has demanded so much overtime pay for Detectives that the City Council finally had to exchange and give them time off so that the City would not go broke.
Jeff Allen July 04, 2014 at 01:32 PM
Ziegler...detectives are in the same overtime pool as the police officers. They are not paying cash overtime for either so the white time banks get filled up until they are forced to give time off. Because they don't have overtime cash to pay does not mean the work stops. Patrol has the same problem which is why the deployments are short. No other city or county is not paying cash overtime at this period. It is robbing Pete to pay Paul. The cash overtime they are talking about in this contract is less than the amount of cash overtime the department spent in the late 90's are early 2000's. But think about this...if a detective responds to a fresh homicide, processes the scene, attends the autopsy, interviews witnesses, does a canvas of the scene for additional witnesses, writes reports, books evidence, and possibly arrests a suspect and interviews the suspect, writes and serves search warrants, I think you can see that overtime gets piled up fairly quickly. It's no different if you are working burglary, robbery, or sexual assault crimes. So if they City gives you time on the books instead of case, guess what?, pretty soon you have around 600 hours on the book and the boss tells you to take some time off so that you don't get to a point where they have to pay you cash. But the same thing is happening in patrol. When an officer or detective retires or leaves the department, guess what?, you have to cash the person out at that time, and if that overtime was earned when the person was younger, before raises or promotions, they are going to be cashed out at what they are earning at the time. The reason you can't get a hold of a detective has nothing to do with the Union asking for more overtime. Many are not at the office because they are on forced days off because of banked overtime. In addition to that, detectives don't sit at desks all day even though television makes it seem like that. Detectives have to follow-up on crimes, meet witnesses, serve search warrants and subpoenas, attend crime control meetings, meet with the District Attorney's Office, stay in contact with witnesses and make sure they get to court which can be a task if they are not comfortable testifying, relocate witnesses, travel to prisons throughout the state to interview suspects......detective divisions are depleted due to the above, retirements, and the fact that the city is way below the amount of detectives they should have, however, with the city freeze on promotions, very few detectives have been made in the past few years, way below the attrition rate. Those are the reasons you may not be able to contact a detective and here right back from them. It has nothing to do with just working a 6 hour day because they work 40 hours a week like everyone else and probably several hours in overtime a week. Excessive overtime balances are forcing officers to take time off.
Ziegler July 04, 2014 at 06:23 PM
Dear Jeff Allen, other officers, and the Community, I wish that the patch would let us divide paregraphs- oh well. I have personal experience galore regarding the hours that Detectives put in. I was brutally attacked by a viscious criminal who threatened my life and told me that he would murder me as he had done others unless I met him at a phone booth at Sepulveda and Roscoe St. Immediately I telephoned the police Station so that they could apprehend this fellow they had been desperately seeking. We are so sorry I was told, You know that only detectives are allowed to arrest the really bad felons, and Detectives do not work Saturdays, Sundays or after 4:00 p.m. weekdays. So with black and white police cars passing him on the Street he could not be arrested. Since that time Detectives who are as you say in the same pool, only they have some different rules as far as arrests go, and any cop should be able to make the arrest, FRIDAY HAS BEEN ADDED TO TIME OFF FOR DETECTIVES. If the public only knew these things THIS WOULD NOT CONTINUE. All of my life I have been law abiding, but I could not get help from the police when needed. Ultimately the guy was arrested and went to prison but he is out now and walks the streets, God help us all. The Federal Government helps Mafiosa and thevery worst law breakers to relocate but not for the law abiding victims of high crimes, for the money that is accumulated in California is in the millions of dollars unspent because victims must front the thousands of dollars up front. The only money from the fund is when a business goes under due to victimization. Let me be clear. I AM NOT CONDEMNING THE FORCE AND I AM VERY PRO POLICE. I take issue with some of the rules established over which you had no control, such as Fri. Sat. Sun. off for Detectives and not allowing you to make the arrest when you should when Detectives are off. At the time that the Attacker was free, I was forced to vacate my home and he was breaking in nightly. Detectives chose not to work at night so that he could have been arrested before he did further harm. Yes, he did do a great deal of harm he cut up a woman's face and raped her.
Jeff Allen July 04, 2014 at 10:55 PM
Ziegler, I am not discounting the fact that you have had a terrible experience which you were a victim. I am just clarifying information. Some of the information that you are stating as far as detective hours and such is incorrect. If you were told this, then I am informing you that it is incorrect. ANY police officer can make an arrest at any time of the day or night and any day of the week, holidays included. If a patrol officer encounters a felony suspect of any crime he would be bound to make the arrest. It is not true that only detectives can arrest the really bad felony suspects. Patrol officers can make any arrest. It also not true that detectives do not work Fridays. It may be true that the particular detective that was assigned to your case may have been off on Friday. Many detectives work a 4/10 schedule, or 4 days at 10 hours a day. Some detectives take Friday off, some Monday, and some in the middle of the week, but there are detectives at work every weekday. Some detective still work a traditional 5 day a week 8 hour workday, and some a 9/80 schedule. If your particular detective is not working, another should be able to assist you. Most divisions also have at least 1 night detective working. Without knowing the particulars of your case, I can make an educated guess on what occurred based on what you stated. My guess is that the detective assigned to your case was off that day and you told whoever you were speaking to on the phone about the suspect and his location. If the officer you were speaking do did a small amount of research he may have determined that it was a case that was pending, in other words the detective was working on the case and as of yet did not have enough to file the case or obtain a warrant. Often people do not understand that in some cases it takes a substantial amount of investigation to have enough to file a case. You can have probable cause to make an arrest, but that does not mean that it is enough to file a case. You must file a case within 48 court hours or the arrestee must be set free. In many cases a detective will not want to make a premature arrest because they know the case will not get filed and the suspect will walk free and now knows the police are investigating him. It prohibits the detective from doing further investigation. My point is that there is often more to just going out and picking someone up. But please understand that any officer can make any arrest at any time. If you have a situation that you are not sure of, speak to the watch commander at the division. One more point, as I stated in a previous post, although detectives do not work on the weekend, often the night watch detective does and detectives are on-call for serious crimes on weekends. Some of the reasons that the overtime banks are high is because they are called in to work on there days off. If you are curious as to why detectives do not regularly work weekends it is because the courts are closed on those days. In that case, the detectives regular off days would be during the week which would cause overtime when detectives had to file cases or go to court. Again, I am not discounting your experience. I just want to make sure that you have the correct information so that you can be prepared if anything like that occurs again.

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